Harry S. Truman on Sam Nunn

I don't see Nunn happening, and aside from the reasons below, just the fact that it reminds me of the Dukakis-Bentson ticket, and when the Republicans (and conservative Democrats) talked about the ticket should be reversed. I don't think amuch older male candidate works Obama. Warner and Strickland were his best choices that will not happen. My guess is down to four for Obama (in no order): McCaskill or Kaine, if he wants someone that has been with him; Bayh or Clinton, if he thinks he needs to reach beyond. On the other side, for McCain, my guess is its down to Hutchinson (if he wants a woman), Romney (if he needs money), or Thune (to appeal to conservatives), jerome.

"Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like one, the people will vote for the real Republican every time." - Harry Truman

Sam Nunn:

He strongly opposed the budget bill of 1993 (which eliminated the budget deficit by raising taxes on the rich, and directly led to the unprecedented prosperity of the '90's)

He led the opposition to gays in the military (but changed his mind a month or two ago, just in time to be vetted for veep).

He voted in favor of school prayer.

He voted to cap punitive damage awards.

He voted to amend the U.S. Constitution to require a balanced budget.

He voted to limit death penalty appeals.

He voted against his party on abortion, the environment, gun control and affirmative action.

(In fairness, he also against daddy's Gulf War I.)

Upon his exit from the Senate, Nunn was praised by Republican senate colleagues.  (Republican Senator John Warner of Virginia:  "Senator Nunn quickly established himself as one of the leading experts in the Congress and, indeed, all of the United States on national security and foreign policy. He gained a reputation in our country and, indeed, worldwide as a global thinker, and that is where I think he will make his greatest contribution in the years to come, wherever he may be, in terms of being a global thinker. His approach to national security issues has been guided by one fundamental criteria: What Sam Nunn believes is in the best interest of the United States of America.")

Post-senate, Nunn is an Advisory Board member for the Partnership for a Secure America, a not-for-profit organization dedicated to recreating the "bipartisan center" in American national security and foreign policy.

Nunn is a board member of the following publicly held corporations: CHEVRON, the Coca-Cola Company, Dell Computer Corporation, and GENERAL ELECTRIC.

Nunn remains a member of the Augusta National Golf Club.  The club admitted its first African-American member in 1990, and is still closed to women.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Nunn

All in all, a nice moderate to conservative Republican record ala McCain, Graham or Warner.  Another Washington insider of the Broder-ite / Lieberman-ish school of centrism.

Again, as Harry said:
"Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like one, the people will vote for the real Republican every time."


Poll
Sam Nunn for veep?
NO !!!
Pragmatically, acceptable.
YES (enthusiastically) !

Votes: 27
Results : Vote Link : Polls

Display:


Tips for a PROGRESSIVE veep! (2.00 / 6)

And, not a homophobe.


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 11:16:31 AM EST

If Obama chose Nunn as his VP... (2.00 / 3)

...I would have to seriously reconsider my support of Obama's candidacy. (That's a personal choice/voting issue, IMHO.)

I have absolutely no problem with Obama moving towards the center. Sam Nunn, however, is not "the center." Certainly not "the center" in 2008.


by bobswern on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 11:29:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: If Obama chose Nunn as his VP... (none / 0)

Still better than McCain.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:13:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I don't get these diaries (2.00 / 2)

We'll know who Obama is considering for his VP when a VP is announced, and not before.  I've seen so many of these diaries on why Obama must not choose Nunn (/Hagel/Webb/whoever)--but it's only speculation that Nunn is even in consideration, nevermind on the short list.

Why are we criticizing Sen. Obama for a decision he hasn't yet made on the basis of unsubstantiated, hypothetical rumor and speculation?

Please note what Obama has said about his VP selection process:

Next time you hear from me about the vice presidential selection process will be when I have selected a vice president. And if you hear second hand accounts, rumors, gossip about the selection process, you can take it from me that it is wrong because we're not gonna be talking about it in the press


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by BishopRook on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 11:37:51 AM EST

It's called lobbying - - (2.00 / 7)

You let them know what you think BEFORE they make a pick, so there's no fire storm AFTER they make a choice you don't like.
And, why is that considered criticism of Obama?  Where in this diary is there ONE IOTA OF CRITICISM of Obama?  Jeez, chill.  
We are allowed personal opinions, and we are allowed to express them before receiving instructions from above.
Remember, it's called the DEMOCRATIC party.
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 11:46:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: It's called lobbying - - (2.00 / 1)

It's indirect criticism because you are helping to echo the baseless speculation that Obama is considering candidates like Nunn, and a lot of liberals get pissed off at the idea that he's even considering it.  Just look at the very first comment somebody else posted to this diary--a threat to withhold support if Obama chooses Nunn.  It's belligerent, it's assuming he plans to do something wrong (with no basis in fact) and warning him not to.

And besides that, it's just arbitrary speculation, there's no evidence that Nunn is actually in serious consideration.  Should we fill pages upon pages of diaries with all the people Obama shouldn't choose for VP?  A diary on why he shouldn't choose Pat Robertson, a diary on why he shouldn't choose Zell Miller, a diary on why he shouldn't choose Rush Limbaugh, a diary on why he shouldn't choose my irritating neighbor down the street who always plays his music too loud?

A much more manageable task would be to lobby for who you think he should choose.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 11:55:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: It's called lobbying - - (2.00 / 4)

Nobody pulled Sam Nunn's name out of hat - it's been very widely reported that he's being considered.  I don't know who the sources are for this, but it isn't unreasonable to respond to the news report.  Your suggestions about Rush and Zell are just silly - it isn't the same thing at all.

I'm not sure how you correlate that to a criticism of Obama either. Letting our nominee know our thoughts about something he may be considering isn't criticism, and it isn't belligerent.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 12:03:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: It's called lobbying - - (none / 0)

That's just the thing--"it's been very widely reported that he's being considered."

It's been very widely speculated, not reported.  It was essentially pulled out of a hat and then immediately tossed into the cable news echo chamber where it got magnified and refined until it was no longer a rumor but outright "fact."  That's just what they do.

By repeating that speculation here, we reinforce it.  By making threats of "IF Obama chooses Nunn..." we are giving undue credibility to the rumor that he is considering Nunn.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 12:13:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Please tell me... (2.00 / 2)


...it's assuming he plans to do something wrong (with no basis in fact) and warning him not to...

Where do I "assume Obama plans to do something wrong?"

Where do I "warn him not to do that?"

I'd really like to know how you culled this from my comment, above. I call it a personal decision--one that I'd make if Obama chose to include Nunn on the ticket with him. Frankly, I think this is much to do about nothing.

But, frankly, how could you read my comment and come to the conclusions you're now making about my sentiments? I was expressing an opinion about what would happen with my own support (I'd "reconsider it") if Obama were to choose someone like Sam Nunn to join him on the ticket.

Your conflation/distorted of my sentiments is noted.

I don't speak for anyone else's vote. To me, that is more than just a concept.


by bobswern on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 12:05:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Please tell me... (none / 0)

The portion you quoted was not meant to refer to your comment, it was meant to refer to the diary (and, frankly, the many diaries like it).  I'm sorry I didn't make that clear.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 12:19:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Oh, I see. It's OK for longtime Obama (2.00 / 3)

supporters to consider, at least up until very recently, Hillary a deal breaker as VP, but expressing our strong disapproval of Nunn in those same terms is "belligerent." I'm sorry, but I WANT Obama to know how horrified I would be were he to select Nunn as VP. I WANT him to know that, as he runs on a platform of "judgement," were he to select Nunn as VP I would have to seriously reconsider all his claims about "judgement." I WANT him to know that, as a former HIllary supporter, I can live with him not picking Hillary as VP - I've moved beyond that - but I will not sit idly while there is even "speculation" that Nunn is on ANY list for VP. Just as we've heard for so long now that, "he can win without Hillary, so why pick her," the same is true for Nunn. And yes, I would have to reconsider my support for Obama were he to select Nunn, which would be totally anthema to his promise for a "new kind of politics." I WANT Obama to know all that, and expressing that is not "belligerent."


Obama supporter working to defeat McCain.
by Rumarhazzit on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 12:45:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Oh, I see. It's OK for longtime Obama (none / 0)

Oh, I see. It's OK for longtime Obama supporters to consider, at least up until very recently, Hillary a deal breaker as VP

No, it's not.  That's stupid.  But that's not even what I'm saying.  Sam Nunn wouldn't be a deal-breaker as a VP choice for me, though I'd be very disappointed, but I could definitely understand anybody who did consider it a deal-breaker.

Point is, this whole discussion is as silly as saying "Ann Coulter is a terrible choice for VP and Obama shouldn't even consider her"--because there is as much evidence that Obama is considering Ann Coulter as there is that he's considering Nunn.  That is, zero.

By even having the hypothetical discussion, we're passively reinforcing the media's narrative that Obama is considering Nunn, which locks right in with their narrative of Obama's rightward lurch, which fits right into their narrative that Obama is a flip-flopper.

The diary is correct in saying that Nunn would be an awful choice for VP, but we need to recognize that the only reason we even think he's considering Nunn is because we are being manipulated, just like we were being manipulated when "some were saying" that Hagel was on the short-list.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 12:56:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Oh, I see. It's OK for longtime Obama (none / 0)

I've got to wonder who picked through all the garbage diaries and chose this one for the front.


by Beren on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 01:22:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

How rude. (none / 0)

Ill mannered, nasty and rude.
Grow up.
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 09:17:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: How rude. (none / 0)

Rudeness is your trademark, McPuma.


by Beren on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 10:07:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Yo, Jerome! (2.00 / 5)

I'm honored to be front paged - Thanks!


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 11:53:14 AM EST

Re: Yo, Jerome! (none / 0)

You Concern Troll (SNARK!).  Seriously, I agree with your points totally.  Glad to see them addressed on the front page.  :)


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 01:02:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Harry S. Truman on Sam Nunn (2.00 / 2)

This is exactly right.  Sam Nunn is a non-starter for me.  The man is a giant homophobe (although I hear he's moderated that view - somewhat) and wrong on too many issues to count.  Yes, he's smart, educated and experienced, but that doesn't change the fact that he's also wrong.

For me, this is no better than Chuck Hagel.  Nunn did everything he could to block Bill Clinton from making real change in 1990's, and in my view, he's one of the primary reasons we didn't get as much change then as we could have. He's no different than Lieberman or that nut Zell Miller. I have a mini seizure every time I have to drive past the Sam Nunn federal building in Atlanta.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 11:59:21 AM EST

Re: Harry S. Truman on Sam Nunn (2.00 / 1)

Obama/Clinton


Obama/Biden 08
by W126 on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 12:00:20 PM EST

My thoughts (none / 0)

McCain will pick Romney, unless he still needs to placate the right.  But isn't Sen. Hutchinson at least moderately pro-choice?

I'm a bit suprised that Jerome doesn't think Sabelius is still in the running.  Granted that McCaskill was an early Obama supporter and a staunch defender of Obama during the Rev. Wright flap, she's a possibility.

Tim Kaine will get slaughtered on taxes.  Yes what he did was absolutely the right thing to do, but he makes it too easy for the GOP to paint the ticket as "tax and spend."

I agree that Sam Nunn would be an awful choice, but Sen. Bayh would likely hand his seat over to a Republican if Obama wins.  Not the best way
to start an Obama administration.

Anyone else for Clinton?  She just makes the most sense right now.


by esconded on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 12:39:13 PM EST

Re: My thoughts (none / 0)

No Democrat who voted with Bush/McSame to invade Iraq makes sense since it would completely undermine Obama's own position and render his charge of bad judgment against McBush ineffective. How can he criticize McSame for it and then pick a VP who agreed with him?


by Beren on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 01:09:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: My thoughts (none / 0)

But the economy is the main issue, and Hillary
would really take the economic argument to McCain.
by esconded on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 02:29:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: My thoughts (2.00 / 1)

In the first place, the economy itself takes the economy argument to McBush more effectively than anyone can.

In the second place, as the current polling shows, Obama doesn't need anyone to carry any arguments for him or bolster any of the false weaknesses being bandied about by McTrolls, Dead-enders, and media dimwits.

And what Obama really doesn't need is to cut off his own argument against McSame's poor judgment by choosing a VP who exercised the same bad judgment about Iraq.


by Beren on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 03:46:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: My thoughts (none / 0)

A lot of good Democrats voted for the AUMF, and then had the good sense to change their minds about it, including John Edwards and John Kerry.
Besides, this is not the time to become a purist.
There are very few Democrats these days who agree that we need to stay in Iraq for the next 100 years.
by skohayes on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:41:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

That's beside the point. (none / 0)

Obama won't be able to criticize McBlunder's bad judgment if he chooses as VP a Democrat who also voted to blunder into Iraq with Bushit. Which also means Obama will have no defense against the charge of inexperience.

I don't think Obama will hurt himself that way when there are so many Democrats available who didn't make that horrendous mistake.


by Beren on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 06:07:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: My thoughts (none / 0)

The GOP will paint EVERY Democrat as Tax and Spend.  

I can't see McCain picking a pro-choice person.  If he does, this election is effectively over.  I too think it will be Romney.

As for Obama, I think Kaine or Clinton will be top choices.  


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:21:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Harry S. Truman on Sam Nunn (2.00 / 1)

Nunn not even in the top five....

Off-topic(not meant to hijack) but a MUST read on voter fraud 2004 Ohio from
Bradblog

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6189


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 12:47:13 PM EST

Re: Harry S. Truman on Sam Nunn (none / 0)

The pundimwits where talking about Nunn for VP long before Obama even secured the nomination. It's entirely THEIR speculation.

And it's entirely concern trolling by the same old gaggle of bitter dead-enders and McTrolls to attack Obama for choosing him when he hasn't done so.


by Beren on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 01:05:32 PM EST

"And it's entirely concern trolling . . . (none / 0)

. . . by the same old gaggle of bitter dead-enders and McTrolls to attack Obama for choosing him when he hasn't done so."
Please cut / paste / highlight one single attack on Obama in this diary.  Thanks!

John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 09:21:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obviously right over your head. (none / 0)


by Beren on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 10:07:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Harry S Truman (2.00 / 1)

S is not short for anything, and Truman did not use a period after it.  Hence, one ought not to write,

"Harry S. Truman."

Instead, one ought to write,

"Harry S Truman."


Another Hillary Supporter for Obama-Biden '08!
by Beltway Dem on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 01:10:59 PM EST

Re: Harry S Truman (none / 0)

His middle name was "S"?  Seriously?  Wow.

Also, the Truman Library spells it with the period while the White House spells it without.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 01:15:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

His (none / 0)

maternal and paternal grandfathers both had names that started with "S".  His parents couldn't come to an agreement, so they gave him the middle initial "S" without a period, since a period would suggest a middle name.  Truman and his parents did not use a period.


Another Hillary Supporter for Obama-Biden '08!
by Beltway Dem on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 02:17:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: His (none / 0)

Ah, while I appreciate the attempt to educate, the arrogant tone of the last two posts needs to be SLAPPED DOWN.  So please accept this extremely arrogant post as a smackdown of your arrogant post and understand the arrogant tone of this post is to only prove a point on just how rude your posts came off...

Yeah, Harry DID sign his name as Harry S. Truman.  He also at times signed it without in a Single Script.  The non-period came from a 1962 interview... and his library suggests it was said in jest.

Either way, the library and MANY MANY examples of his signature show the signature with a period.  At most, you are dead wrong, at the least, both are correct.  

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/speriod.htm

FTW... How about posting with a little more politeness in the future.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:28:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Poor foolish David McCullough (none / 0)

going around and spreading lies like that.  They ought to take away his Ph.D.


Another Hillary Supporter for Obama-Biden '08!
by Beltway Dem on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 07:40:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: His (none / 0)

Thats a great compromise, I shoulda thought of that with my son, instead I lost the fight...


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 02:10:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Could make same argument ag. Obama (1.00 / 3)

You can easily create a list about Obama that would make any real Democrat angry; so, it doesn't really matter who Obama picks for a running mate.

No matter who wins, McSame or Nobama, we get stuck with a corporate candidate and thus, no real change on any major issue that matters to Americans.


Obama was for single payer before he came out against it.
by neaguy on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 01:20:44 PM EST

Talk about the ultimate dead-ender. (none / 0)


by Beren on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 01:25:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Could make same argument ag. Obama (none / 0)

Go away little troll.  You are NOT welcome here.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:19:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Could make same argument ag. Obama (none / 0)

Yeah, you're probably too young to remember the last Democratic president and the relative peace and prosperity we "suffered" under in those 8 years.
So it's understandable that you would think there is no difference between the candidates and their platforms.
You moron.
by skohayes on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:45:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Good diary; agree with all but the last lines (none / 0)

suggesting Nunn is a centrist. As a raging moderate myself, I object to having the likes of Sam Nunn associated with my politics. Nunn is a Republican in Dem's clothing; at least Alabama's Richard Shelby had the integrity to change parties.

True centrists refuse to be "packaged"....you generally can't predict all of their positions, because they think each issue through individually, without knee-jerk reactions. It can be a Bob Graham, who was one of the 23 Senators to oppose the Iraq war resolution. Or a Joe Lieberman who leads on climate change...a Bob Casey who is pro-life, a Chuck Robb who (one of 14 Senators) votes against DOMA. And finally, John Warner, who though right of center, made it his mission to keep Ollie North out of his beloved Senate.

More often than not, these types never make it to the leadership positions, because they get black-balled by one of the interest groups they have antagonized. But they are generally thinkers, who would rather be true to their convictions than attempt to be "all things to all people".

Again, I'd never call Sam Nunn a centrist.


by BJJ Fighter on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 01:44:20 PM EST

Re: Harry S. Truman on Sam Nunn (2.00 / 1)

Great diary and very appropriate.

We all get to express our opinions so that -- if this is truly a bottom-up campaign -- then the upper levels get to hear what's being thought down below. And perhaps they'll listen.

Whether it's speculation or leaks or actual reports does not make a bit of difference -- what's important is that the campaign hear what supporters are thinking.

Choosing Nunn or Hagel or others of that homophobic and non-progressive strain would be a deal breaker for me. I would not support such a ticket. I've worked long and hard in the gay movement and with other groups and would not be at all happy to see a homophobe in the VP spot on a Democratic ticket.


by cuppajoe on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 02:27:07 PM EST

it won't be Nunn (none / 0)

I would think the one thing the media and even casual observers of the election thus far would realize, is that every time someone acts as though they have insight into the thinking of the Obama campaign - they are usually showing that they have no idea. I have seen nothing to suggest that Obama is considering Nunn.


by highgrade on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 05:42:57 PM EST

Re: Harry S. Truman on Sam Nunn (none / 0)

Sam Nunn voted for Clarence Thomas.


by John Manifold on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 10:34:29 PM EST

LOL! Thomas comment... (none / 0)

...pretty much shuts down this thread, doesn't it? I'd call Nunn a non-issue...even a Nunn-issue...


by bobswern on Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 11:15:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Diary is Right On (none / 0)

I don't believe Nunn is in the running for VP and the diarist is right on that it reminds everyone of the Dukakis-Bentson ticket. I believe that Evan Bayh is the front-runner for VP. Democrats almost always pick a senator as the VP nominee (The exceptions in the last 60 years -Shriver as a replacement to Senator Eagleton (72) and Ferraro because there were no female Democratic senators (84))

From what I've heard from prominent Obama supporters, it's unlikely that Obama will choose a woman as the VP nominee. There is a feeling that there needs to be at least one white male on the ticket. If he does pick a woman, it will be Clinton, but Obama will not choose Clinton because Bill Clinton is too much trouble. (Actually, Bill Clinton never was a good politician and is more of a policy wonk - that's why he lost Congress and got impeached).

Obama will go with the "reach out" route. That's his style. He will also not go with a one-termer unless that person has other compelling government service experience.

McCain will respond to Obama's pick. He may go with a woman if Obama does not pick a woman. However, I don't think McCain will choose Hutchinson. He is more likely to go with a governor or former cabinet member. However, Republicans have strong resistance to female candidates, so from McCain's point of view, he'll only pick a woman if he needs to take a big gamble like what Mondale did. (But McCain is personally intrigued with the idea of picking a woman)

I think the leading VP candidates on the GOP side are Romney, Huckabee or some woman we haven't heard about, yet.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 12:52:45 PM EST

Re: Harry S. Truman on Sam Nunn (none / 0)

In the end, I don't expect Obama to pick Nunn as a VP; I believe that Obama is smarter than that.

But there's absolutely nothing wrong with everyone raising their voices to let Obama know just what a mistake such a pick would be. Believe it or not, not all pundits on TV just make stuff up. Some of them actually have sources within campaigns, so it's pretty hard not to believe that at some level Obama is considering Nunn -- indeed, at some level Obama would be a fool not to consider it, given the possibility of putting Georgia into play.

But he'd be a worse fool to actually make that pick, given the animosity such a pick would engender. Like many others, I would actually prefer 4 years of McSame to the possibility of any years/months/days of Sam Nunn.


by fsm on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 02:40:36 PM EST


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